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	<title>Comments on: Twilight on Earth, Morning on Gleise 581c</title>
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		<title>By: pamela</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 02:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jim,

A metallicity of -0.33 means this star has roughly 47% the metal content of the Sun. This is fairly standard for a population I disk star (the Sun is actually abnormally metal rich). Population II stars have metallicities from roughly -1 (10% the Sun&#039;s metals) to less than -2 (less than 1% the Sun&#039;s metals). 

So far no planets have been found via any method around population 2 stars and several photometric studies of clusters using Hubble had the potential to find something. Many planetary theorists predict that the population II systems formed out of clouds with too few heavy elements to form planets. This is more than pop II stars not having life - pop II stars don&#039;t even have planets!

I can&#039;t find anything that indicates how old Gliese 581 may be. Determining stellar ages is a tricky business. In our own system we use radio-active dating. Unfortunately, we can&#039;t go grab a rock from the Gliese 581 sample and see how many half-lifes have past.

I hope this helps!

Cheers,
Pamela</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jim,</p>
<p>A metallicity of -0.33 means this star has roughly 47% the metal content of the Sun. This is fairly standard for a population I disk star (the Sun is actually abnormally metal rich). Population II stars have metallicities from roughly -1 (10% the Sun&#8217;s metals) to less than -2 (less than 1% the Sun&#8217;s metals). </p>
<p>So far no planets have been found via any method around population 2 stars and several photometric studies of clusters using Hubble had the potential to find something. Many planetary theorists predict that the population II systems formed out of clouds with too few heavy elements to form planets. This is more than pop II stars not having life &#8211; pop II stars don&#8217;t even have planets!</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find anything that indicates how old Gliese 581 may be. Determining stellar ages is a tricky business. In our own system we use radio-active dating. Unfortunately, we can&#8217;t go grab a rock from the Gliese 581 sample and see how many half-lifes have past.</p>
<p>I hope this helps!</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Pamela</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Rosenthal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Rosenthal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 May 2007 19:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;d like to know is if the metallicity of Gleise 581 is -0.33, what does this mean? 

Just how old (young) is Gliese 581?

Would you class it as a Population I or II star?

The obvious reason for these questions are if Gleise 581 is a Population I star, formed relatively recently, 5 to 7 billion years, and from material containing elements similar to what was available for our sun to form, i.e heavier metals, then there is a good chance of &quot;life&quot; being possible on a planet occupying the &quot;habitable&quot; zone of Gleise 581.

I seldom see this information in press releases for exosolar planets discovered, especially &quot;earth-like&quot; discoveries.  Are we wrong to expect lifeless worlds surrounding Population II stars even though they may reside in the &quot;habitable&quot; zone?

Your comments please.  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;d like to know is if the metallicity of Gleise 581 is -0.33, what does this mean? </p>
<p>Just how old (young) is Gliese 581?</p>
<p>Would you class it as a Population I or II star?</p>
<p>The obvious reason for these questions are if Gleise 581 is a Population I star, formed relatively recently, 5 to 7 billion years, and from material containing elements similar to what was available for our sun to form, i.e heavier metals, then there is a good chance of &#8220;life&#8221; being possible on a planet occupying the &#8220;habitable&#8221; zone of Gleise 581.</p>
<p>I seldom see this information in press releases for exosolar planets discovered, especially &#8220;earth-like&#8221; discoveries.  Are we wrong to expect lifeless worlds surrounding Population II stars even though they may reside in the &#8220;habitable&#8221; zone?</p>
<p>Your comments please.  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrolink [Global Edition] &#187; Astrosphere for May 9, 2007 &#124; Latest astronomy news in 11 languages</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 20:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My Astronomy Cast cohost, Dr. Pamela Gay ponders on her Star Stryder blog what life might be like on Gliese 581c (that recently discovered, most-Earthlike planet) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My Astronomy Cast cohost, Dr. Pamela Gay ponders on her Star Stryder blog what life might be like on Gliese 581c (that recently discovered, most-Earthlike planet) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: A Ler&#8230;-- Rastos de Luz</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Ler&#8230;-- Rastos de Luz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 12:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Twilight on earth, morning on Gliese 581C&#8220;, no Star Stryder; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul Kerstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Kerstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 May 2007 11:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating post Dr. Gay. Space.com didn&#039;t quite put as much info behind their news story about Gliese 581c when I posted about the discovery of the planet on my blog.

I found your comment on planet age between Earth and the new planet most intriguing. The fact that Earth is in its relative golden years is probably something that most people don&#039;t realize. On the other hand, one billion years is a long time and surely we&#039;ll have figured out a way to colonize in space by then. 

This point is driven home even more after my recent trip to the Museum of Natural History in New York City. In the dinosaur wing, there&#039;s a clock-like display showing the age of the earth relative to the existence of life on our planet. The fact that humans on our planet didn&#039;t show up until after 10:00 or 10:30 is quite humbling.

By the way, I&#039;m a regular listener to AstronomyCast and a super-amateur star gazer. I&#039;m excited that you&#039;ll be blogging regularly so I can get my daily(?) fix of how it all works and comes together in regard to astronomy. Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating post Dr. Gay. Space.com didn&#8217;t quite put as much info behind their news story about Gliese 581c when I posted about the discovery of the planet on my blog.</p>
<p>I found your comment on planet age between Earth and the new planet most intriguing. The fact that Earth is in its relative golden years is probably something that most people don&#8217;t realize. On the other hand, one billion years is a long time and surely we&#8217;ll have figured out a way to colonize in space by then. </p>
<p>This point is driven home even more after my recent trip to the Museum of Natural History in New York City. In the dinosaur wing, there&#8217;s a clock-like display showing the age of the earth relative to the existence of life on our planet. The fact that humans on our planet didn&#8217;t show up until after 10:00 or 10:30 is quite humbling.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m a regular listener to AstronomyCast and a super-amateur star gazer. I&#8217;m excited that you&#8217;ll be blogging regularly so I can get my daily(?) fix of how it all works and comes together in regard to astronomy. Keep it up!</p>
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