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	<title>Comments on: Lightening bugs lost in light pollution</title>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jul 2007 14:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was at a pool party last night.  Venus came up, and i pointed it out.  Jupiter became visible, and i pointed that out.  A bit later, Saturn was clearly visible near Venus.  The host talked about the family&#039;s disaster encounter with a department store scope.  It ended up in a garage sale.  However, when i mentioned that i had a 10 inch scope, they invited me to visit with it.

In my opinion, it isn&#039;t the size of the scope that matters so much.  It&#039;s the darkness of the skies and the ability to find interesting objects.  My dob has a computer object locator, which helps the novice (that&#039;s me) find stuff.  And, an Oxygen 3 filter allows views of nebulae even from downtown Detroit.  Oxygen 3 rejects most of the light.  But, i&#039;ve seen the Eagle Nebula in O3 in a 6 inch refractor.

So, the minimum cost scope seems to be a 6 inch Dob with computer.  Orion&#039;s xt6i is $500.  An Oxygen 3 filter is $90.  Add a membership at a local club, so someone can help set it up, list good things to look for and provide social context.  Add a subscription to Sky &amp; Telescope, or a monthly trip to the local library.  My library carries Astronomy magazine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at a pool party last night.  Venus came up, and i pointed it out.  Jupiter became visible, and i pointed that out.  A bit later, Saturn was clearly visible near Venus.  The host talked about the family&#8217;s disaster encounter with a department store scope.  It ended up in a garage sale.  However, when i mentioned that i had a 10 inch scope, they invited me to visit with it.</p>
<p>In my opinion, it isn&#8217;t the size of the scope that matters so much.  It&#8217;s the darkness of the skies and the ability to find interesting objects.  My dob has a computer object locator, which helps the novice (that&#8217;s me) find stuff.  And, an Oxygen 3 filter allows views of nebulae even from downtown Detroit.  Oxygen 3 rejects most of the light.  But, i&#8217;ve seen the Eagle Nebula in O3 in a 6 inch refractor.</p>
<p>So, the minimum cost scope seems to be a 6 inch Dob with computer.  Orion&#8217;s xt6i is $500.  An Oxygen 3 filter is $90.  Add a membership at a local club, so someone can help set it up, list good things to look for and provide social context.  Add a subscription to Sky &amp; Telescope, or a monthly trip to the local library.  My library carries Astronomy magazine.</p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Schrauwen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jorge Schrauwen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 08:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I live in a suburb (sp?) of Antwerp +- 20min by bus. But I&#039;m like 200-300m away from the edge of the port of Antwerp... I can tell you nobody around me is even slightly interested in Astronomy.

And It always amazes me when I&#039;m on vacation in france, swiss,... how many stars there... and at the high level of general animal activity at night, I&#039;m not talking about bugs alone but also about owls, foxes,...

I think the question you states is an interesting one that could well be expanded to wildlife preservation aswel. Sure the red foxes in belgium are declining... I&#039;ve only see one or two in my life... but if you grow up in the city you don&#039;t know any better... people on who live in small town may see 2-4 a week and if that drops to 1-2 a week they might worry.

But the John Doe in the city doesn&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I live in a suburb (sp?) of Antwerp +- 20min by bus. But I&#8217;m like 200-300m away from the edge of the port of Antwerp&#8230; I can tell you nobody around me is even slightly interested in Astronomy.</p>
<p>And It always amazes me when I&#8217;m on vacation in france, swiss,&#8230; how many stars there&#8230; and at the high level of general animal activity at night, I&#8217;m not talking about bugs alone but also about owls, foxes,&#8230;</p>
<p>I think the question you states is an interesting one that could well be expanded to wildlife preservation aswel. Sure the red foxes in belgium are declining&#8230; I&#8217;ve only see one or two in my life&#8230; but if you grow up in the city you don&#8217;t know any better&#8230; people on who live in small town may see 2-4 a week and if that drops to 1-2 a week they might worry.</p>
<p>But the John Doe in the city doesn&#8217;t.</p>
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