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		<title>By: Science isn&#8217;t&#8230; &#8212; This and that</title>
		<link>http://www.starstryder.com/2007/08/20/what-is-science/comment-page-1/#comment-10149</link>
		<dc:creator>Science isn&#8217;t&#8230; &#8212; This and that</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Oct 2007 00:20:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Science can be fun! [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Doc Kinne</title>
		<link>http://www.starstryder.com/2007/08/20/what-is-science/comment-page-1/#comment-6910</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Kinne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 16:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spacebull, yes, global warming is science, absolutely! Science - certainly the process - doesn&#039;t have to be necessarily right. Careful observations - science - led to the Aristotle model of the solar system. That model was wrong, but its predictions where correct. Indeed, for some years, IIRC, the Aristotle model made better predictions than the Copernican model. And yet we all know that the Copernican model turned out to be correct.

I am not a fan of Global Warming. Having said that, I&#039;ll also say that I&#039;ve not done a vast amount of study on it. I do know that the long term data says that we are still climbing out of the last ice age. It is SUPPOSED to be getting warmer! (Source: Paleontological Research Institution). The global warming debate during the 1970s revolved around how COLD the Earth would be getting in the future. In the late 1700s/early 1800s - when we really started to accurately gather weather data, in my opinion, we detected a cooling period known as the &quot;Little Ice Age&quot; for example.

Climatology models are so complex and deal with so many variables that I simply don&#039;t the ability to make the predictions that some of these models are making. I see error bars - BIG error bars. Is there an alarming trend upwards in temperatures? Yes, I see that the data says that. What I don&#039;t see is our ability to judge the length of this trend. I see it so little that I&#039;m willing to put my life where the error bars are and move to Boston next year. And I&#039;m not going for beach front property.

Pamela!  THIS is why you moved to the midwest! It was global warming, wasn&#039;t it?!  :-)

Having said all that, I am willing to keep an open mind, and hope that, as time goes on, the models we have start to converge - and they will - and the error bars start to shorten. But I&#039;m still moving to Boston.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spacebull, yes, global warming is science, absolutely! Science &#8211; certainly the process &#8211; doesn&#8217;t have to be necessarily right. Careful observations &#8211; science &#8211; led to the Aristotle model of the solar system. That model was wrong, but its predictions where correct. Indeed, for some years, IIRC, the Aristotle model made better predictions than the Copernican model. And yet we all know that the Copernican model turned out to be correct.</p>
<p>I am not a fan of Global Warming. Having said that, I&#8217;ll also say that I&#8217;ve not done a vast amount of study on it. I do know that the long term data says that we are still climbing out of the last ice age. It is SUPPOSED to be getting warmer! (Source: Paleontological Research Institution). The global warming debate during the 1970s revolved around how COLD the Earth would be getting in the future. In the late 1700s/early 1800s &#8211; when we really started to accurately gather weather data, in my opinion, we detected a cooling period known as the &#8220;Little Ice Age&#8221; for example.</p>
<p>Climatology models are so complex and deal with so many variables that I simply don&#8217;t the ability to make the predictions that some of these models are making. I see error bars &#8211; BIG error bars. Is there an alarming trend upwards in temperatures? Yes, I see that the data says that. What I don&#8217;t see is our ability to judge the length of this trend. I see it so little that I&#8217;m willing to put my life where the error bars are and move to Boston next year. And I&#8217;m not going for beach front property.</p>
<p>Pamela!  THIS is why you moved to the midwest! It was global warming, wasn&#8217;t it?!  <img src='http://www.starstryder.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Having said all that, I am willing to keep an open mind, and hope that, as time goes on, the models we have start to converge &#8211; and they will &#8211; and the error bars start to shorten. But I&#8217;m still moving to Boston.</p>
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		<title>By: Spacebull</title>
		<link>http://www.starstryder.com/2007/08/20/what-is-science/comment-page-1/#comment-6708</link>
		<dc:creator>Spacebull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 18:33:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would be a great link to dispute www.junkscience.com.  I&#039;m so sick of people saying that global warming isn&#039;t science.  Yes, it really is.  Observe past and present trends, make theories on why the trends are what they are, and make predictions based on those theories.  If your predictions come true, there you go!  Science!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be a great link to dispute <a href="http://www.junkscience.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.junkscience.com</a>.  I&#8217;m so sick of people saying that global warming isn&#8217;t science.  Yes, it really is.  Observe past and present trends, make theories on why the trends are what they are, and make predictions based on those theories.  If your predictions come true, there you go!  Science!</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 18:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the kind of thought provoking and funfilled content that keeps me listening to you and Fraser.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the kind of thought provoking and funfilled content that keeps me listening to you and Fraser.</p>
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		<title>By: Astrogeek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Astrogeek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Aug 2007 05:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... calculating the amount of gunpowder necessary to accelerate the fluffy cat from a cannon through humid sea-level air with sufficient velocity to de-fluffify the cat is science?  

( Not that I would ever actually *do* such a thing.  Really.  Honest. )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; calculating the amount of gunpowder necessary to accelerate the fluffy cat from a cannon through humid sea-level air with sufficient velocity to de-fluffify the cat is science?  </p>
<p>( Not that I would ever actually *do* such a thing.  Really.  Honest. )</p>
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