The last time I reported on Michael Griffin I was at AAS and he was addressing us (the astronomy community) on the future of astronomy missions (space missions focusing on stuff outside of our solar system). Today he will address the planetary science community (and a few stray astronomers like me) on the future of planetary science at NASA. For this group, the Moon Missions â€šÃ„Ã¬ the manned moon missions – are still a path to science (1 of the many Apollo astronauts was a geologist, and most of those who landed collected rocks). It will be interesting to see how this talk varies from the January talk. The room is packed. Literally â€šÃ„Ã¬ scientists are standing shoulder to shoulder three rows deep at the back and lining the room all the way down the sides of room.
The last time I was at LPSC, NASA announced how they had planned and put in place initial funding for every mission outlined in the planetary sciences decadal survey. The NASA representative was met with thunderous applause and bright shiny dreams for the future. Weâ€šÃ„Ã´ll see what today brings.
I have to say this is a different Griffin then I saw in Austin. He started by sincerely expressing his sorrow at the death of Gordan McKay and presented his widow and children a plaque in gratitude for McKayâ€šÃ„Ã´s work at NASA.
Now, Griffin â€šÃ„Ã¬ acknowledging he is the only thing between us and dinner â€šÃ„Ã¬ is starting with a reference to Kennedy and his vision of going to the Moon. He is pointing out that todayâ€šÃ„Ã´s politicians arenâ€šÃ„Ã´t known for their stirring oratories, but he is looking for other people to be our inspiration. It is a NASA one, US one, inspiration â€šÃ„Ã¬ In the eyes of the world “first in space means first, period; second in space is second in everything.” He is praising the Lunar and Planetary Institute (the host organization for this meeting) for its work to promote and carry out projects beyond Earthâ€šÃ„Ã´s orbit.
Looking to the Johnson Space Flight Center, we have a center not named after a great orator, but after a politician who worked hard to pass legislation to move NASA forward. Today, under a new vision, we continue to advance space forward.
Griffin is using a lot of humor to talk about the change in the vision he put through a couple years ago. He is stating that in many ways Gene Roddenberryâ€šÃ„Ã´s vision for the Enterprise, while containing a split-infinitive, contains an idealized vision. While we may not be the ones to find new civilizations, we may be the ones to build new civilizations on strange new worlds. This is a speech designed to inspire us to â€šÃ„Ã¬ as humans â€šÃ„Ã¬ see ourselves as the ones out exploring surfaces of other worlds. He is drawing on the memories of great moments of the past â€šÃ„Ã¬ Mariner, Pioneer, Voyager â€šÃ„Ã¬ and is looking forward to tomorrowâ€šÃ„Ã´s successes â€šÃ„Ã¬ MESSENGER, New Horizons â€šÃ„Ã¬ while saying that exploration is our future.
The tone is changing as he explains that he has never seen a mission (context = planetary mission) he doesnâ€šÃ„Ã´t like. But, with NASA receiving 6/10 of a percent (0.6%) of the federal budget, not every mission is possible. He is quoting Wired, keeping the audience laughing, as he points out that the public thinks NASA gets 26% of the Federal budget, and that one fellow, after hearing the small size of the actual budget, remarked â€šÃ„ÃºNo wonder NASA hasnâ€šÃ„Ã´t done anything interesting in a while.â€šÃ„Ã¹
With limited means, the planetary science budget is getting rearranged to improve our scientific coverage of outer planets â€šÃ„Ã¬ a new mission is being planned to the outer solar system â€šÃ„Ã¬ while de-emphasizing Mars. Small missions to the moon (talked about Sunday) are also being added, and instruments are being build for Indiaâ€šÃ„Ã´s moon mission. These missions will help pave the way for manned missions. There are also landers planned, total of 7 US NASA missions planned by 2014.
He wants to see the US as a world leader, but he also wants partners. He sees NASA as a world space program, with over half of its programs having international members. He sees the International Space Station as part of this â€šÃ„Ã¬ with ISS allowing us to work on our biomedical understanding of people living in space. He is invoking the name of the Columbia crew as heroes whose dream we continue (Iâ€šÃ„Ã´m not sure I agree with any of this part â€šÃ„Ã¬ You canâ€šÃ„Ã´t be a leader and have partners who are equals â€šÃ„Ã¬ I want partners who are equals. The Columbia crew did science, they did not go to ISS â€šÃ„Ã¬ Iâ€šÃ„Ã´m not sure how you invoke their name to invoke dreams of ISS).
He is outlining the tests of the new launch vehicles, launching from Kennedy and the New Mexico spaceport. He is challenging us to find uses for these new vehicles, and he is challenging us to find ways for NASA to stay first in space and first in the world.
Comments? Iâ€šÃ„Ã´m fascinated by the difference between Griffin here and Griffin at AAS. Rebecca and I are both sitting here with our mouths open. This guy I could like. Maybe. If only the whole world dominance thing wasnâ€šÃ„Ã´t so strongly voiced so often.
Below I try to get as close to word for word as I could. Some paraphrasing did occur, but I think I captured the tones and many of the exact phrases.
One European said, â€šÃ„ÃºI have a few comments.â€šÃ„Ã¹ Griffin said, â€šÃ„ÃºI donâ€šÃ„Ã´t want comments, I want questions.â€šÃ„Ã¹ She said, â€šÃ„ÃºNo, No, Iâ€šÃ„Ã´m here to represent Europe and European voices. â€šÃ„Â¶â€šÃ„Ã¹ She went on to talk about her project (Mars sample return), and how NASAâ€šÃ„Ã´s cuts to Mars are effecting Europe â€šÃ„Ã¬ there is a sense that NASA isnâ€šÃ„Ã´t serious about actually doing the planned international Mars sample return. When NASA makes cuts on collaborations, its hurts everyone. Griffin: â€šÃ„ÃºReally â€šÃ„Ã¬ I donâ€šÃ„Ã´t want comments. Iâ€šÃ„Ã´m the invited speaker. Iâ€šÃ„Ã´m the one invited to talk. Other people can make comments when they are invited to speak. I want questions â€šÃ„Ã¬ But Iâ€šÃ„Ã´ll try and address the question within your comments.â€šÃ„Ã¹ He went on to explain that Mars cannot always have the flagship mission. If we have an international obligation to maintain high levels, we canâ€šÃ„Ã´t meet our own goals. We will however meet obligations we have â€šÃ„Ã¬ including Mars sample return. So, Griffin says, we are restoring Mars to a historic average and putting much of the money elsewhere. That said, he went on to explain that NASA is dedicated to the agreed upon Mars sample return mission, and he will talk to the ESA version of his position to confirm this and assuage ESA fears.
The next question is about the new badge and security check that is being done on NASA employees at JPL. He is saying this is identical to what civil servants have gone through for decades, and everything has been reviewed by lawyers before being implemented. For now, we’re living with it.
From depressing badges to Google Lunar X-Prize – How will NASA deal with a commercial winner? Will there be commercial contracts? asks someone from the commercial space race (he didn’t say which company). Griffin: Yes. And we’ll use a certain amount of government money to seed it and will hirer folks.
Grad student comment: I work on Mars. Mars is the only program getting an A today from the National Resource Council. Now we’re stripping money from Mars to the outer solar system to support those weaker programs. How can we maintane excellence if we keep moving money from program to program? What do you have to say to young scientists?
Griffin: Don’t specialize. Specializing is for bugs. You’ll have a better career if you can do more things. … Be prepared to have turmoil in your career. … NASA has a bold vision and we need to be able to move money around. Tell me, if we are going to hold Mars funding constant and have a mission to the outer solar system, where should we cut the funding from to have both these missions?
audience mutterings: from manned space (the grad student declined to repeat over the mic what the audience said)
Grad Student: How do we convince the Government to get us money?
Griffin: We’re not allowed to lobby congress
Grad Student: NASA Produces great educational materials
Griffin: Yes we do, but … Let me remind you that NASA is not the department of education. NASA spends $15 million each year on education – that’s enough money for one more discovery mission, and we can’t do that mission because of the education we do. I’m not saying that is money badly spent, but … NASA is the only thing in the domestic discretionary part of the Federal budget that hasn’t received cuts.
Grad Student: I’m not trying to make fun of NASA – I’m trying to say I want to live in a world in 30 years where people are better educated in Science, Math, and Technology
Griffin: That’s not NASA’s job
Grad Student: (pause) Do you have any insights from your work with politicians on how we can get more science education?
Griffin: I don’t generally get any insights from politicians
Smithsonian Center Women: What happens to everyone who in the past 25 years who have dedicated their careers to Mars? What happens to the wealth of data we have?
Griffin: Apply to the money in the R&A budget, and you can get money based on your scientific merit. … (paraphrase totally here) The argument that we have had money and we do have jobs with Mars is not a valid argument for continuing to study Mars. It is time to do new things.
Smithsonian Center Women: So we shouldn’t specialize?
Griffin: No … And the Mars program isn’t being zeroed out. Not even close.
Smithsonian Center Man: If my child came home with an A, a C and a D, my answer would not be to lower the A. I would say get an A in everything! (spontaneous applause from Audience) What do you/congress see as an acceptable grade for NASA?
Griffin: In a world of limited resources, I can’t get an A in everything. … When as a golfer my putting sucks (his word) I don’t spend all my time on the driving range.
Person: What can we do to help your resources?
Griffen: Talk to Congress.
Man from Pratt Whitney Rocket-dyn: When you leave NASA, what do you see as your greatest achievement and greatest disappointment?
Griffin: I can’t grade my own paper. I have a deep ethical aversion to self-assessment
(Pamela’s inner dialogue – Ummmm, self assessment is good)
Griffin: I hired people who knew space. There were no nervous virgins. Everyone knew their way around the space industry. I hired people with domain expertise and that matters. If anyone notices it, that would mean a lot to me. My greatest disappointment is the lack of ability to find a shuttle replacement. I yield to no one on the need to retire the shuttle in 2010. I regret that I haven’t – at a policy level – convinced anyone to buy into a shuttle replacement in the past 3 years.
EPO Mars Coordinator Carla: You put me in a fix. I assure you that we do not have a replacement population for the ladies and gentle me in this room in the next 15 to 20 years. I encourage people to follow these incredible specializations. I like the “No planet left behind”. I don’t see the answer coming from the department of education. What do I do? (she said more much more eloquently.
Griffin: If you aren’t getting what you need of the Department of Education, you need to fix that agency. If I take on the job another agency is chartered for, I’m going to get slapped.
… NASA’s job is to present the mission and vision of today’s space program. Fixing science education in America is not part of NASA’s job. It is not in our charter. Go look at our charter. I feel your pain. I was an adjunct professor for 15 years. I know we are doing a bad job at science education in America, but it is NOT NASA’s job to fix that. We are here to provide content.
Person I missed title of: (massive paraphrase) We’re a small part of the world. Other nations are rising – Europe, China, India – How can we continue to be dominate and be bold?
Griffin: (massive paraphrase) We’re 4% of world’s population, but 25% of world’s budget. Other nations don’t have the space budget we have. Our budget system is so bad as everyone seems to think. NASA’s budget was largest in the year’s pre-Clinton. … We get as much money every 10 or 15 year bin today as we got during Apollo. … (closer to quote again) If we’re getting the same amount of money as before and we’re not happy with what we’re doing as we were before, we need change what we’re doing. We can’t responsibly ask for more money until we know how to use what we have. … We need to be good enough, clever enough, and bold enough at what we do that other people (referring to Europe) to join us as volunteers. We can’t leverage other people’s resources. … We need to be in a position to say, here is what we are absolutely going to do, you tell us what you are going/want to do. … Over 50% of our missions have international collaborators.
JPL Scientist: I think it is a mistake to tell people not to specialize. I think it is better to have the funding to maintain specializations. … This is what happened when Apollo went away. All the lunar specialist went to other fields and that expertise was lost.
Griffin: Apollo’s budget was set to zero. Mars budget was not put to zero. We are not getting rid of that expertise, we are just returning things to lower levels.
Women: Thank you for restoring outer solar system missions and the servicing mission to Hubble. What is being down to increase access to launch vehicles and power systems?
Griffin: Paraphrasing – We’re developing new technologies. As for launch vehicles … government is not very efficient. I’m hoping that the commercial space agencies will drive innovation and lower costs. Government can be efficient under stress (when things get streamlined), but it can’t be successful when trying to meet the needs of everyone in all of government. For instance, the system of procurement is designed to be fair but not to be efficient. … We need to empower a group to efficiently run the space race. I hope that it will be NASA, but it may be the commercial agencies…
Griffin had to go to dinner (and so do I) so the meeting ended.